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Podcast with Greg Lawton, Founder of Nodes & Links
What if the reason most companies will fail at AI adoption has nothing to do with the models and everything to do with whether anyone can defend the decisions those models make?
That is the question at the heart of this week's conversation with Greg Lawton, founder of Nodes & Links. Greg first joined the podcast back in the early days of Project Flux. He returns this week to talk about a very different business, one that has just announced a major partnership with Oracle and is pushing hard on the idea that AI in construction needs to be auditable, not just impressive.
The conversation explores the evolution of Nodes & Links from a point solution into an AI orchestration layer, the principles Greg and the Oracle team share around governance and trust, and the practical mechanics of building "ground truth" models that humans, lawyers and regulators can actually inspect. Greg also opens up on the legal accountability question that most of the industry is still tiptoeing around: when an autonomous system makes a project decision, who carries the can?
Along the way Greg lays out his thesis on why the next wave of value will accrue to non-software companies that learn to behave like software companies, why humanoid robotics are closer than people think for project sites, and how implicit knowledge, the stuff senior project people carry in their heads, is the next frontier for AI to capture.
Takeaways
Most AI failures are governance failures, not model failures.
Auditability is the price of entry for AI on serious projects.
Ground truth models give humans a defensible decision trail.
Strategic partnerships (e.g. Oracle) signal AI moving from pilot to backbone.
Non-software companies that adopt software discipline will win.
Autopilot features only work when accountability is clearly defined.
Legal frameworks lag the technology, design for that gap now.
Humanoid robotics will reshape site work sooner than expected.
Implicit, senior knowledge is the next big AI training challenge.
The project management profession is on the cusp of a real mindset shift.
Links and Stuff
Greg's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-lawton-3545497b
Nodes & Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/nodes-links/
Nodes & Links Website: https://nodeslinks.com/
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